They met at an SEL (Social and Emotional Learning) training. Duncan was a researcher at CASEL (Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning) and Donna was a Resident Principal at Azuela Elementary School. Duncan was leading a research study around a particular program and Donna's school was a part of the study. The training took place at Wells High School in Chicago. There was an ice breaker, "What is your favorite sport?" Being in Chicago, most people chose baseball or basketball, but Donna and Duncan were the only two who chose football, especially college football. They started talking about their favorite teams and argued over SEC vs ACC. After a few minutes, they realized they lived in the same neighborhood, on the same street, less than a mile from each other. That was Duncan's "in." He asked for Donna's number so he could "show her around the neighborhood." They went on a date that next Saturday and have been together ever since.