We have been friends for well over 30 years. We may not know the exact how, but it was definitely during both our times in Cachagua/Upper Carmel Valley, a place that is near and dear to both our hearts ♥️ A lot of people ask, “what took you guys so long?” Welllll, we both believe we happened when we were supposed to happen. We each had other things going on in our lives and believe that we needed to go through certain experiences before we were ready to be with one another in meaningful way.