We met through our jobs . Victoria was in CSR /sales for PKG a packaging distributor in Oxnard ,CA. Joe was a structural designer for Award PKG a packaging mfg in Commerce, CA . Joe picked up the call Victoria was on the other end needing his help in some design work for a new account she was trying to acquire . Took them 2 weeks to get something together, but they both noticed they enjoyed chatting with each other. After chatting to several months over the phone they decided on a first date , 4th of July 2008. They fell in love and the rest is history ♡