We met at an Aquatics Conference in Austin, TX where Justin was lecturing about drowning for other aquatics professionals. Later that week, I worked up the courage to ask him to buy me a drink, which he refused at first... typical Justin! We kept in touch about drowning stuff until 2015 when we saw each other again at the same conference, this time in San Diego. In March of 2016 Justin made his first visit to Portland... and the rest is history!